Class C Championships
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- May
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Hey bloggers,
So, just wanted to give some more highlights from Class C yesterday.
First off, in the boys 400 relay, four teams were disqualified, including Valhalla, who had a photo finish with Bronxville. The Broncos wound up taking first place with a 44.6.
Pat Wortner from Dobbs Ferry ran an impressive 10:09.7. Wortner was more than in the lead the entire race. His brother Brendan Wortner took second with a 10:47.2.
Paolo Luciano had a great night for Valhalla, finishing second in the 110 hurdles with a 17.3 and second in the 400 hurdles with a 1:01.7. Luciano also took first place in the pole vault with a height of 9-6.
Tyonna Smith from Hamilton did well taking second in the 100 hurdles with a 16.0. Teammate Tameeka Smith took second in the 100 witth a 12.4 and third in the 200 with a 27.0.
The Bronxville girls 1,600 relay team ran a 4:04.9, beating out Woodlands in the final lap. The Falcons finished with a 4:06.2.
We’ll keep you updated on the steeplechase tomorrow!
Casey
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Dan Marra began working for the Journal News this past September. He graduated from Manhattan College in 2004 and from John F. Kennedy High School in 2000. While at Kennedy, he ran cross-country and track. He is excited to be covering the sport that he participated in throughout his four years in high school. Dan loves all sports, but has, what some may say, an unhealthy obsession with the New York Giants.
Matthew Ng has been with Varsity Central and The Journal News sports department for the past two years handling high school beats such as skiing, bowling, girls soccer and tennis. Ng is a 2004 graduate of Syracuse University's S.I. Newhouse School with his major in broadcast journalism.
Casey Tolfree spent her high school career playing Section 1 sports at Dobbs Ferry and is excited to have the opportunity to cover them for the Journal News. After graduating from St. John's University, Casey joined the Journal News staff in December 2007 and has covered a variety of sports including basketball, softball, and volleyball.
Just results, no story!
Why did so many 4×1 teams get disqualified and how did Dobbs Ferry deal with the lack of meets in which their athletes had competed?
the story of the meet that was not noticed by the on site reporter was in the boys meet it was a three team battle for the team throughout the meet, between eventual winner Bronxville, Pawling, and Valhalla. Pawling won this meet easily last year by more than 80 points and this year Bronxville, with only one senior scoring was able to pull the upset win, over a program that does not have a lacrosse team to compete with for athletes.
The article in the paper was actually an article about Woodlands, the team that finished SECOND in the girls meet with quotes by one of their runners about how they were going to win their first sectional title this year, yada, yada, yada…...Casey needs to learn to find the real story and focus on that. Dan did a much better job with the Pearl River article, actually talking about the teams that won…never see the baseball team that lost getting the focus of the articles….
In the steeple today at Byram Hills, Bronxville finished the meet officially by placing 1,3,5 in the boys meet and 1,2,5 in the girls.
To Skeptic, one story is that the two Sophomore boys from Bronxville went 1 and 2 in the shot put and both threw over 44 feet in doing so. They didn’t get mentioned because the reporter didn’t bother interviewing either of them or their coach about the meet. She could have at least asked the coach about what his reaction to winning and what he thought the important events in the meet were.
As a parent it is great to see the kids succeed but to not get the recognition is too bad, great job to the Woodlands girls but when they win they can have the entire article to themselves, oops, too late, they already did get that.
Skeptic, another story for boys side was the 49.9 that Hunter of Pawling ran and he is only a freshman…..he is favored in D2 to earn state berth for 400.
Also, Valhalla had good showings by their high jumper, 400 hurdles, etc…..High jumper has the state standard as well.
DQ’s in relay could have been a story line.
darkness for pent runs could have been a story line
Bronxville girls high Jumper clearing state standard of 5’1” is a story line
I could go on, but I don’t want to bore Casey with all of these facts.
Being a Dobbs alum, it might have been interesting to have her do a blurb about how Dobbs ran at sectionals and didn’t have 6 meets as section rules state. plenty of meets on the weekends all season long and all other teams were able to get to them to get the requisite meets in, and they had rain outs as well for dual meets, how is it that it’s ok for one team to not have 6 and others do???
Story line about the boy from Magnus 2nd in 1600, only boy to score for his team….or the teams that attend this meet year after year and have no track at their school, or a nice story line about the Children’s Village team and how far they have come since coach Margie took over ( I hear HUMAN INTEREST written all over this one).
Heads up at State Qualifiers, if you don’t make it, you might be the story line…..keep your chins up.
girls steeple, Bronxville 2,3 and 5 not 1,2, 5.
Also the anchor of the Bronxville girls 4×400 ran 57.2 to pass Woodlands. All ignored by the reporter. But else should we expect?
Just wondering how dobbs having six meets would have helped or hurt your team. If anything its to dobbs own detriment that their coach did not take them to six meets. Burnout from practice and lack of experience in their event. The only time half of these teams ever use a track is at the meets.
The six event rule has been the rule for many years and is intended to insure that teams are composed of only bonafide track and field athletes. Each athlete must have competed in six meets to be eligible for sectional competition. This eliminates athletes from sports whose season may have already finished (high jumpers from basketball in winter). It is very easy to fulfill the requirement. The article on Class C may have been the poorest of a very poor year of reporting. Twenty seven class c wins dating back to 1979 and the feature is the second place team!
Dobbs having 6 meets would not helped or hurt any team, but would allow for a fair playing field for all, who knows if all of those athletes even have 3 meets to their names, now that they were given the pass to compete without the 6 meet rule….many teams have kids approach their coaches mid season that have quit other teams (Baseball, lax, etc.) and have wanted to join but told they couldn’t because they would not get 6 meets in, how nice to know that maybe these coaches should allow them on in the future in May and still be able to compete, who knows, their could be a 12’ pole vaulter from the Lax team waiting to join next year in May, or a 180’ Javelin thrower that didn’t get to pitch in enough baseball games early season so he quit to join track, or the 2:10 half miler that was a middie on Lax but didn’t want to spend 3 hours/day at practice and track is done in 1 hour or the mid distance kids…..it really opens it up for next year I guess, just tell the state you were rained out of a couple of meets and get busy recruiting…...
This just goes along with what Dobbs has done over the last couple of years. They didn’t submit kids for all county in cross and blamed others, Now they get around the 6 meet rule (maybe because their head coach is AD and has friends at the state level???????) If I were a D2 3200 runner hoping to make state meet, I would be upset that I had to run in at least 6 meets and the Wortners get to train through these same meets so they can be fresh and ready for State Qualifiers…....unfair advantage????? Maybe Freyer of Pawling can find a LOOPHOLE like DObbs did and show up to run, their must be something out their to get him eligible? Freyer for the win!!!
So, what exactly happened to Dobbs this year? It was beginning to look like a promising program, and then it nearly disappeared from the map. Did some adult fail to do his/her job to the kids’ detriment? I suspect that the Dobbs athletes are not all too happy that they were not entered in meets—despite what advantage it supposedly gives them.
if the wortners didn’t have a chance at making states would we be having this discussion? There are others teams that did not have 6 races. Why are we not talking about them?
Im sure the wortners would rather been racing then training.
I’m sure Pat has run at least 3 events every meet (minus sectionals) Giving him more races than the avg. runner.
Every meet is probably three. Doubt that he had a third of what your average runner raced this spring. Failure to take advantage of weekend meets should not be excused by giving the team a waiver into sectionals.
Why do YOU care so much? I think you need to go for run and burn off some of that angry energy.
Wonder, why don’t you wonder why there are rules at all. Participation in a sport requires that rules be followed. Failure to participate in six meets is a violation of those rules and restrictions should ensue unless injury or illness is the cause. If someone false starts, why don’t you ignore that as well. Or perhaps cut the course or many other violations. “Angry” you say. Sure! Some schools follow every rule and some do not and then they complain that their athletes are being judged unfairly. Have the coaches follow the rules and there will be nothing to complain of.
Where you treated unfairly as a child and now your living through your local high school team? The six meets didn’t negatively affect any team except DF. Let it go man. Had Patrick wortner ran in 12 meets (XC schedule) or run in 4 hes gonna make it to states. And how dare you try and bring negative feelings towards these boys. Your a sick individual/ stage mom.
So—again—why the heck did Dobbs fail to run in 6 meets? It’s a pretty easy standard to meet. Anyone know?
Ok, what curious said about Dobbs runners not being happy about not running in more meets is absolutely right; everyone on the team complained about it. If Coach Kaminski had a choice, he would have us go to more meets, but unfortunately, he’s not the head of the track program. Also, in the regular season meets that we DID compete in, most of the team ran three or more events. Finally, we do NOT have a track to train on, so we have no advantage over anyone!
We are a small school with a track program that does not get a lot of recognition from the school, meaning that there are not a lot of athletes from other sports who would be interested in joining in late season.
excuse me, but running in 3 events each meet does not meet the criteria of having competed in 6 meets, in your case, Shelby Greany of Suffern must be credited for at least 100 meets then??
It’s even sadder that the AD is the coach at Dobbs and ignored the rule and is allowed to do so, if I were the parents of DF I would be at board of ed. meetings complaining. Isn’t he a football guy? Bet he never screws up the football schedule, may even complain there are not enough games on the schedule for football.
not having a track as a dist. runner doesn’t affect the Kenyans that win world titles, so please don’t use that as a reason….
why didn’t coach Kaminski advocate for more meets, he more than knows the 6 meet rule?
so two coaches, and neither followed rules, and yet a free pass….
as for other teams not doing 6 meets, please name them JustWondering, instead of posting….Solomon Schechter gets to go to sectionals because it was on a Wed. and not a Saturday, had it been sat. they would not have competed, religious observation take priority.
any other teams without 6 that will even bring kids to state qualifier????
Hamilton is a small school without a track as well and not much recognition but you see them going to the required amount of meets.
Dobbs Ferry apparently has the support of the athletic director (he did hire himself as their coach) and yet they don’t do weekend meets??? Sounds like a nice cushy pay check for him without having to give up his weekends, was he busy doing football preseason stuff???
The Wortners are NOT the ones being punished, it is the kid that gets beat to go to the state meet that has followed the rules and will not go now because a kid that did not have to follow the rules got a bye into the meet….too bad for whoever that kid is, I feel sorry for him.
P Wortner, I hope you did not stop complaining, the people to complain to are on your Board OF Education, at a meeting in front of the taxpayers that paid the AD/Coach’s salary for a partial season of competition….keep at it.
It is a terrible shame that the Dobbs Athletic Director/Head Track Coach could not “get it done” for these kids. Whatever criticisms are being thrown around here, they should not be directed at the kids.
Although I am reluctant to engage in this nonsense, I feel that I have to reply to say that I find it disturbing that someone would suggest that Patrick or any of the Dobbs athletes should feel guilty about going on in competition beyond sectionals. I think you missed the point of his post, which was that the few athletes who did compete in the sectional meet honestly put in the full season of training, hard work, and dedication, despite disadvantages, which this “rule” is supposedly intended to ensure.
None of us had any knowledge of this 6 meet rule, parents included. Although the kids complained about not being entered in some of the big weekend invitationals, they had no idea that not competing in enough meets would affect their end-of-season participation. I assumed they didn’t go for budget reasons, which is a valid assumption these days. Perhaps this 6-meet rule needs to be re-evaluated and number of races should be considered due to the cost of having to participate in meets, which may be unfair to smaller schools.
We don’t know the full story about why Dobbs didn’t “follow the rules”. Perhaps it wasn’t intentional, but yes, it should be investigated. However, if Dobbs’ participation in sectionals was allowed, it was allowed for a reason, so let it go at that. The athletes genuinely believed that they were training for a full season and should absolutely not be made to feel guilty or responsible in any way.
I also have to say shame on those of you who feel the need to attack the young reporter who covered the Class C sectional meet. There are more constructive ways of making suggestions.
You can save money in your budget by not traveling to Arlington for state qualifier meet. Dutchess county is a lot farther away than Irvington sat. meet or Somers sat. meet or Icahn Stadium Saturday meet, or North Rockland sat. meet, or Pearl River sat meet,, or New Rochelle sat. meet, or Edgemont sat meet, or Loucks games sat. meet or Croton sat. meet, or Putnam County sat. meet, or Cornwall sat. meet, or any other sat. meet you could have gone to but wanted to save money in your budget…......
The budget woe is actually more unfair to larger school Ms. Wortner, try fitting all of New Rochelle’s team or Mt. Vernon’s team on 1 bus like DF can…..they pay for at least 2 buses each weekend (and Mt. Vernon doesn’t even have a budget).......Try buying uniforms for teams of over 100….....paying for 4 coaches salaries, pole vault poles for 10 vaulters, etc….
Dobbs Ferry is at an advantage in being small, don’t kid yourself…..and now they are at another advantage in that rules are waived for them, probably because their AD knows someone in the state that looked the other way for them so your kids could compete unfairly against kids who followed the rules
Your AD is paid a lot of money to know the rules of the sports his school participates in, he def. knew 6 meets, decided to not give up his weekends instead,, and I am sure the other coach knew the rule as well but probably wanted to let the AD look like a fool, didn’t matter, when it came crunch time the guy with buddies at state level wins.
as for making “more constructive” attempts at changing the paper,, forget it, when they hire poeple who are competent in covering a very diverse sport then the kids will get what they deserve. Many “constructive” ideas have been suggested by parents and coaches (even some kids) but the excuse is always that the editor only gives them so many inches to write for track and instead, at the Class C meet they used those valuable inches to cover the 2nd. place girls team….
Good post, Wortner’s mom. For the sake of a very fine group of young athletes, I sincerely hope that the Dobbs Board of Ed and the AD find a way to get the running program back on track for the XC season. It is somewhat incredible to suggest that these kids would condone being excluded from meets, let alone that they are now somehow enjoying some huge advantage as a result. Also, I suppose that reasonable minds can differ, but I suspect that anyone who thinks that running for a small district is somehow an advantage has likely never him/herself run for a small district.
These are the same kids that no one at Dobbs submitted for All County consideration. Coaches at Dobbs are not doing their jobs.
an advantage financially only Curious George
The varsity team had 6 competitions on their schedule and 2 were rained out. I guess I don’t see why your hung up on the 6 meets. I would also like to know if they had run all six meets would their have been a different outcome.
If you have a real problem with the DF attending the Qualifier I invite you to make a formal protest to the State Athletics. I also invite you to post your name so that we can set things straight.
I am also making the previous posts aware that I am the modified track Coach.
I understood you the first time, Dobbs 2, and do not agree that smaller schools are at any great advantage, financially or otherwise. Anyway, from what I understand, it sounds like—as per Cooach K’s posting—- it is perfectly apppropriate for the Dobbs kids to run (unless of course they seeded the clouds thereby causing the two rain outs and, hence, securing the big advantage that you all seem to think this gave them; perhaps Oliver Stone will make a movie out of this one). As for your attempt to personalize any disagreement, I happen to think Curious George is pretty ok as far as cartoon monkees go. So, you will have to try harder than that. In fact, both my daughters LOVE that little guy.
that is probably why 99% of coaches put more than 6 meets on the schedule so that they can still get the required number in even with rainouts. The rules don’t state that you only have to have 6 on the schedule but that you must compete in 6, so if you are a smart coach you put more on the schedule….....
nothing perfectly appropriate about not following rules, sorry, you can’t convince me of that.
If the coaches were in attendance at saturday meets they would have more in than 6…...
Wasn’t the 6 meet rule changed to 3 for this past winter track season? How was that decided and why???
As is often the case in the winter, the six meet rule is changed depending upon snow and school closings. This year it was reduced to three; other years it has been four. In the spring with the dual meet schedule as well as meets every weekend, it is very easy to meet the six meet rule probably by the end of April for the vast majority of schools. You really have to try not to get to six meets in the spring.
Check the armory site there are 3 meets 4 every week during indoor. The spring has the same chances of getting rained out as the indoor season does getting snowed out. Chances are more meets got cancelled this spring then during the winter season.
6 meet rule was waived in winter due to finances. Each team that is part of section 1 is given 6 meets in the winter – league, counties, sectionals, kick off, 4×4 night and SMR night. These are paid for as part of your dues. Once some of these were cancelled due to snow, a waiver was sought and granted.